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Public Hearing

Minutes of the Public Hearing held Monday, September 26th, 2005 @ 7:00 p.m. at Costin Hall, 7232 Lantzville Road, Lantzville, BC

 

PRESENT:               Council:        Mayor C. Haime

                                                            Councillor S. Crayston         

                                                            Councillor B. Dempsey

                                                            Councillor W. Griffey

                                                            Councillor D. Parkhurst

                                                            Councillor D. Scott

                                                           

                                    Staff:              Twyla Graff, Director of Corporate Administration

                                                            Pamela Shaw, Planning Consultant

                                                            Rob Roycroft, Facilitator

 

                                    Gallery:         Approximately 74

 

 

OPENING REMARKS:

 

Mayor Haime welcomed those present and stated the purpose of tonight’s hearing was to hear representations from individuals regarding “District of Lantzville Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 50, 2005”.  All persons who believe that their interest in property is affected by the proposed Bylaw will be afforded a reasonable opportunity to be heard or to present written submissions respecting matters contained in the Bylaw.

 

Written submissions submitted at the public hearing total approximately thirty-nine.

 

Mayor Haime noted that the Bylaw had been given first and second reading by Council on July 25th, 2005.   Further, that a Public Hearing was conducted on September 14th, 2005.  Mayor Haime then continued to explain that at a Regular Meeting of Council held September 19th, 2005, Council elected to propose amendments to the OCP and given that one of the amendments would see an alteration in density, Council was required to conduct a second Public Hearing on the Bylaw.  Amendments proposed at the September 19th, 2005, Regular Meeting of Council are as follows:

 

1.         that Council will not entertain amendments to the Bylaw for two years following date of adoption however, will entertain amendments on an annual basis after the two year period has expired.

 

2.         that the OCP be amended to reinstate the Estate Residential land use designation and water service area boundary as in “Regional District of Nanaimo Lantzville OCP Bylaw No. 974, 1995”; and

 

3.         to incorporate appropriate wording that Council must immediately commence a Liquid Waste Management Plan (LWMP) to include a study on what areas of Lantzville are able to sustain on-site sewage disposal.

 

These amendments were contained in the OCP as advertised in the Notice of the second Public Hearing.  Mayor Haime then turned the meeting over to Mr. Rob Roycroft, facilitator.  Mr. Roycroft informed those present of the rules of the hearing as established by the Chair, Mayor Haime, and as there was a Speakers List established invited the first individual to come forward, Mr. Ian Savage.

 

Mr. Ian Savage, 7428 Chataway Place

-          commented that being restricted to three minutes is not enough time however, adoption of the bylaw may not be valid given that Pleasant Valley/East Wellington community plan has not yet been revised and within that plan still contains lands that have been acquired by Lantzville when Lantzville incorporated and his opinion that notification should have gone to those individuals as well

-          if you adopt the OCP tonight you will have two community plans in existence that contradict each other

-          process of this community plan is absolutely dead wrong for what this community deserves

-          council received no mandate to radically change Lantzville

-          council has indicated that you were mandated by provincial legislation to create a new OCP within two years but that is absolutely incorrect and in fact, it relates to a requirement to come up with a new RGS in relationship to the whole overall plan for the regional district within two years, which by the way, has expired

-          OCP Steering Committee was hand selected by Council, bless them for their time and efforts but it is Council’s doing that not one person on this committee represents majority view point

-          730 units for the Foothills was simply a figure offered by Foothills representatives, no negotiations, per say took place and two OCP public meetings during the process that were held for no other reason than for the developer to present his project and no other land owners were given this opportunity

-          the community survey’s were ignored along with written letters and speakers from September 14, Public Hearing were totally ignored

-          vast majority and written submissions were opposed to this OCP and major input was opposed to overdevelopment in Lantzville, no concessions made whatsoever in the OCP

-          written submissions tonight will also be totally ignored, with Council meeting right after this public hearing which has the new OCP on the agenda and if its being adopted before you have read the submissions that is highly unusual and speaks to how seriously you are not taking input from people

-          biggest flaw in the process -- you refuse to let residents decide in the next election, 54 days from now

 

Mrs. Eileen Tegart, 7494 Fernmar Road

Mrs. Tegart read from a prepared statement and is attached to and forms part of these minutes.

 

 

Mr. Jack Arnold, 6895 Stone Road

-          has reservations since the grant from the government was supposedly linked to down-zoning properties, seems rather strange that immediately after we spoke to you people you amended the OCP, and thank god you did

-          does this mean you don’t get a grant or what else is there that we aren’t being told

-          if we are going to have the old zoning and I talked to someone at the Regional District and Lantzville office, there could be some other small impediments should property owners wish to split their property in half, please clarify

-          not against development but development has to be rational and planned

-          if aquifer is as fragile (and no reason to believe it isn’t) then to allow Foothills or any major development to come in here and use it is wrong -- let them foot the bill for water, let them spend the money, let them put it in

-          wonder about the handouts to people that are large developers – I’ve done developing on the side and did so expecting nothing and it was I who put up large sums of money, down, in trust, think all developers should do that, (case in Nanaimo where taxpayers are affected)

-          I like Lantzville, choose to shop at little store because of its nature, choose to purchase beer and wine here, get repairs on my car at the Shell station but if you consider cities in the states like Leavenworth – they have an identity that draws people to them, I think Lantzville has the same thing, opportunity here not to compete with Nanaimo, or big, wall to wall strip, but rather to keep Lantzville’s rural identity

-          I love going to the Sow’s Ear medical clinic, use the prescription centre

-          wasn’t even involved in this much (OCP process) but did sit down and read the whole plan, and there is something that isn’t Lantzville about it, it’s going to loose its natural quality that keeps people living here -- is that what you want as it seems to be the focus of the plan

 

Ms. Beverly Schmid, 6290 Phantom Road

-          against OCP and amendments

-          came out three times and showed in numbers we were against the OCP

-          stuck us in a small hall, but the masses still turned out

-          you make me feel that I live in a communist country, where we don’t have rights

-          a number of opposition to OCP and foothills and this should be recognized and respected

-          we vote people in and we can vote them out Mayor & Council

-          grandfather fought in one of the wars, away from family for five years, property on Beban mountain, that mountain is now Provincial park, I have roots in Alberta in Lloydminster, oil people in our family, own most of the Town of Lloydminster, but managed to keep a lot of land for cows, etc., believe development brings prosperity, but I love the land, love the animals, love the water, if we do not manage what we have and treasure it, it will end up like other parts of the country, mainland, development has wrecked it

-          once you start breaking down the environment, water, animals, marsh in the foothills used to have beavers, no beavers left, cougars in grasslands of the foothills, rabbits, owls, marmots, a lot of them are gone now

-          development does bring prosperity but must be done in a fair and balanced way, if not going to end up with an ugly mountain

-          going to end up with people not having enough water and in the long run, down the road, this is not going to benefit our children

-          already on my road I have seen change.  My road used to be peaceful, I was almost hit by a motorbike, teenagers that have no respect that scream at you … they think they can get away with things -- called the RCMP six times

-          what’s it going to be like when the big development happens, think about what you do because it will not just affect me but you too

 

Mrs. Marilyn Smith, 7860 Hobson’s Road

Mrs. Smith read from a prepared statement and is attached to and forms part of these minutes. 

 

Mr. Glenn Dickinson, 8359 Bayview Park Drive

Mr. Dickinson read from a prepared statement and is attached to and forms part of these minutes.

 

Mrs. Ella Ashcraft, 8351 Bayview Park Drive

Mrs. Ashcraft also read from a prepared statement and is attached to and forms part of these minutes.

 

Ms. Judy Robertson, 7500 Fernmar Road

-          thanks to Ian Savage for being Council watchdog for all these months

-          properly installed and maintained septic system is most  environmentally competent way of dealing with sewage vs. flushing into the ocean that acts as a huge toilet for aquatic life to deal with

-          monies should be spent on educating the public on proper maintenance of septic systems versus monies spent on studies for sewer systems

-          object to the development of the Foothills, the issues of drainage and increased storm drainage, traffic etc., have to be addressed

 

Mr. Al Girard, 7825 Hobson’s Road

-          chance to say thank you for listening to some of us on the Estate Residential down-zoning concerns however, listening to others whose locations haven’t been dealt with and are still potentially being hurt – big concern for us in Lantzville

-          attended Council meetings and hearing that some of our septic fields are failing ie., the tanks are floating in water, installed floating in water (long time ago), no wonder that we have a waste problem and if LWMP will look at all the septic concerns, then that is what we need to do -- look for solutions and if it turns out that these systems are failing, then we have to deal with that

-          can’t continue to have sewage flowing in our ditches

-          Foothills has to come about with a sewer system of sorts that is going to take care of the problem immediately and not add to the problem

-          water is a huge issue and if we are going to allow development in the Foothills, we can’t allow coming out of our water system – it’s at its maximum now -- has to be provided by foothills and not taxpayers of Lantzville. 

 

Mr. Jack Roberts, 7084 Caillet Road

Mr. Roberts read from a prepared statement and is attached to and forms part of these minutes.

 

Mr. Ron Irving, 6786 Normarel Drive

-          strongly opposed to OCP

-          biggest concern is the zoning and all people should be treated the same

-          his property in the ALR and when purchased 13 years ago it was possible to subdivide into 4 – 5 acre pieces, now that is taken away and has a great deal in the difference in value

-          other ALR properties are affected in the same way however property owners don’t realize it

-          need a referendum on OCP and economically feasible given the upcoming election

-          majority of people are against this

 

Mr. Remi Buydens, 7934 Lorenzen Lane

-          yes, you did take some of us out of the down-zoning but don’t think that is enough

-          everybody in this community should be treated equal -- all should be taken out and put back into water service area

-          totally disgusting leaving certain people out and appears like a red herring, making some of us happy and using the remainder to get your grants, as we are led to believe

-          walk in my boots for one whole week, everybody walk in our boots for one whole week

-          been to a lot of meetings, tried to submit letters, etc., if couldn’t attend, feedback I get from certain people that everybody is in favour of this, however, all the meetings, never seen more speakers at a meeting than I did a week ago on the 14th, where there were 93 speakers and only three spoke in favour (for part of it)

-          should tell us what the people want in this community and how they would like to keep it rural, don’t want high density, but not against progress

-          don’t believe high density is the answer, if your going to fix up sewer or bring sewer how about properties in the village get first crack and not new developers like Foothills/Gee property, how about 40, 50 year residents, that’s why we pay taxes

-          postpone and take more time, let’s do it right -- second time is too late, do it right the first time

 

Mr. Bill Lorenzen on behalf of Mr. Barry LaPointe, 8465 Lisa Lane

Mr. Lorenzen read from a prepared statement written by Mr. Barry LaPointe and is attached to and forms part of these minutes.

 

Mr. Roycroft announced that we had come to the conclusion of the Speaker’s list and invited anyone who has not had an opportunity to speak for the first time and who would like to do so to please step forward.

 

Mr. Albert Stewart, 7516 Lantzville Road

-          community should welcome a wide range of residents

-          should be space for families with young children, teenagers, and when kids have grown and moved away

-          should be space for independent kids when move way from home within the community and young couples who are just starting out

-          needs to be space for older people, people who must downsize their homes and they need to be included in the community so can stay living near friends and family

-          some of those needs are not being met with present situation

-          need for sustainability

-          when I first moved to Lantzville in 40s, small village, no zoning, mixed community, many different kinds of people could live here -- as time goes on there have been zoning bylaws adopted and some of those restrictions have kept groups away

-          want to continue to have a community where many different people can come to live

-          my vision for Lantzville is a village core where residents can have most of their needs met

-          we need living units for 1 - 2 people each and within 1 to 2 km walking distance

-          have read the bylaw, looked at maps and I think it moves us in the direction I want -- it may not satisfy everyone but I support it.

 

Mr. Ross Fraser, 7180 Lancrest Terrace

-          couldn’t attend last hearing but did send written submission

-          like to say that I commend Council for their efforts made to be fair in drawing up a community plan, which by definition, can not please everyone

-          pleased council addressed down-zoning, legitimate concern of many residents and may be more attention needed to that

-          people I speak to in Lantzville, for the most part, feel council has made a reasonable effort, public information, input and attention here tonight indicate that

-          down-zoning problems have been solved for significant number of people

-          attendance here tonight indicates a broad degree of satisfaction

-          good base to start building a future of Lantzville which is what we must do, because surrounded by unprecedented growth and have to take our place in the context of that picture, can’t ignore what is happening on Vancouver island

-          positive features of the plan --  seniors, address potential problems of pollution in Lantzville, town is getting 900 acres of parkland, including trail ways that is something most communities would die to have … so, off to a good start

-          urge you to proceed and put OCP in place

-          I think the plan represents a reasonable consensus of people I speak to

 

Mr. Bill Lorenzen, 7963 Lorenzen Lane

-          lived here since ‘67

-          friend of last speaker however certainly disagree with what he has just said

-          believe in democratic process, step in the right direction for us to produce our own OCP, not opposed to that, know we need one, and all for one, but don’t believe this represents what I would like to see

-          found number of properties that are just waiting for this to go through with the implied impression that the present council supports development.  Gee property, purchased and someone living in the house, looking to develop, 60+ acres, 20 some acres next to golf course has been purchased, not by someone who wants to live on it but develop

-          advocating that we should now open ourselves up to having private school and 100+ students, no challenge for their sewage and water … some proponents for having this in OCP that’s a good thing but Seaview school is dropping but be damned if I send my kids there (referring to a couple members of Council) -- disappointed in that kind of an approach

-          understand that private schools have a function in society -- used to teach at a private school however, when Seaview is declining different circumstances

-          Ware Road proposal -- happen to be a senior for a numbers of years now and not in the least interested in sacrificing rest of Lantzville so that I have a home to go to down the road -- speaking as a senior

-          Foothills - 1825 acres supported strenuously by this council, haven’t heard from one objecting that it appears in the OCP

-          Interesting that BC government web site -- under Ministry of Economic Development notes that the Foothills development will include single and multi family units, commercial area, golf course, and approx. 400 – 500 acres of parkland and trails, now somebody is giving us the wrong information -- could be BC government

-          website indicates start of summer 2005 and finish in 2015 told repeatedly by some council members, that those really believe it would take 25 years, insane to consider this as a less than 25 year project, here they say 10 years and website was updated June 2005

-          mentioned multi-family units, apartments, condo, golf course, not 900 acres of park, with these concerns -- urge you to think of Lantzville

-          I don’t find anyone speaking in favour of this plan

-          previous speakers have mentioned 54 days until the election, please take your time, postpone, don’t bring it forward for third reading and let’s see you after the election.  Maybe you won’t all be there but give us a chance to discuss this with other potential council members

-          take your time, don’t vote until after November elections

 

Mr. Hans Larsen, 7010 Owen Road

Mr. Larsen read from a prepared statement and is attached to and forms part of these minutes.

 

Mr. Bill Barsby, 8386 Bayview Park Drive

-          against OCP and a lot of it is because we have been snowballed by Council

-          told at meeting in July that down-zoning was addressed, given hope and kicked in the face when truth came out

-          Councillor Griffey saying 20 – 25 years for the Foothills development to be completed but the Englishman River was done and finished in a year

-          work for a developer, part of my living, nothing against if in moderate way

-          learn a lesson from Dave Scott, forgot about development costs, should consult with him 65 acres would take 6 months.  Property up there is sold instantly, $250,000 for the same lot, without a house, so if a person, comes in, buys lands and then resells it, the average individual, small person, young family, is going to pay right through the nose for it

-          individual treatment plants work very well and they have to be engineered, guarantee by people putting them in and would like to see that happen here rather than dumping it out into the ocean – currently five existing pulp mills, etc., dumping in the ocean -- can we not do it a different way

 

Mr. Roycroft asked for the second time if there was anyone from the gallery wishing to speak for the first time. 

 

Mr. Roycroft asked for a third time if there was anyone wishing to speak for the first time.  Hearing none, Mr. Roycroft invited individuals who would like to speak for a second time.

 

Mr. Jack Arnold, 6895 Stone Road

-          knocked on over 40 doors since last council meeting and told people of second public hearing, some of whom are here but also received response that there’s no point that Council will do what they want

-          unfortunately I think that has become a standard in BC lately -- doesn’t matter what the people want once Council has the power

-          the whole nature of what Lantzville can be, the uniqueness of the little community and the cross section of things that is available, strive hard to preserve, since your next to Nanaimo craziness, and when I think of lots less than 5,000 sq. ft. go look what 9,000 and 8,000 look like in eaglepoint, ugly, ugly development, so please think about these things

 

Mrs. Eileen Tegert – 7494 Fernmar Road

-          take exception to the fact that the absence of people here was because down-zoning was the only issue

-          five members of Council look like their paying attention and one is obviously bored to tears

-          like Ian Savage said, David and Goliath story, up and down the streets, door to door, finding out public opinion and like Jack Arnold said, what’s the use -- I myself felt the same thing what’s the use -- didn’t go door to door because what’s the use

-          not due to lack of interest, people out there do not want this and has been said over and over and over and were just hitting a brick wall

 

Mr. Remi Buydens, 7934 Lorenzen Lane

-          regarding no amendment can be made for two years, I think that is going back to Polland, Russian days, not democracy when can’t change something

-          doesn’t make a good community plan when things like that are put in

-          regarding 900 parkland, we didn’t go to the mountains, kids always asked to go to the beach

-          we have a lot of national parks, don’t have to put one up in the mountain of Lantzville, no benefit to this community but a liability and shouldn’t be a carrot dangled in front of us

-          let’s take our time, let’s not rush this through tonight, let’s wait a few weeks, months, and make it for everybody, not just a select few

 

Mr. Ian Savage, 7428 Chataway Place

-          hope everyone has had their say

-          insist on putting everything on the record

-          down-zoning speaks volumes  -- that’s what I’m hearing, most of the people involved still do not know what is going on.  I personally sent letters to these people, why they weren’t informed by Council -- what a discourtesy to your fellow residents

-          as it stands, I don’t care if there is one property left (down-zoned), you help your neighbour, and if one needs help you help them

-          four properties on Stone Road and Superior Road that have zoning rights for ½ acre lots size, they may think they have been appeased – bought properties with that zoning in place, so leave them be

-          ten properties on Lisa Lane, all ALR lands increased considerably … lost that ability and on top of that, as of Thursday/Friday, trying to clarify what exactly you were giving these people

-          what a rush you are in – by going ahead to adopt an OCP, where you yourself don’t even understand what is in it – its not the way you do it

-          not personal attacks on you but not one of you nor staff knew, at July 25th Council meeting, how many properties were being down-zoned not one of you knew the answer or staff, I then, provided the answer

-          why then were you about to pass a community plan where you didn’t know how many properties were being down-zoned and I dare say it’s happening again, your not aware of the ramifications and not sure why your in such a hurry

-          not wanting to ramble on, but not letting this go ahead without a number of points  being made for the record regarding what was wrong with process and content of OCP

-          credibility is in question, one point comments made Seaview closing, this was given as a main reason at July 25 Council meeting -- the minutes of that meeting had the words that Seaview would close if decline in enrollment and when researched myself found it to be groundless, Seaview school is not closing despite declining enrolment, also noted that minutes were then changed

-          affordable housing - just simply does not make sense, brand new housing on small lot or not is going to be more expensive than many of the existing older or smaller houses in Lantzville, can not create more affordable housing by creating high density, only way is to decrease property values by making land less desirable and who wants to do that

-          seniors housing – again, deeply troubled that I had to go to so much time, trouble and my own money to do things that aren’t my roll by hosting a seniors housing meeting on my own -- fed up with idea that we can not have seniors housing without all this over development

-          turn out at seniors meeting was miniscule -- no one at the meeting that wanted seniors housing but possibly a couple that wanted it in the future

-          in Nanaimo, there are seniors housing developments that stand on their own, developers want to do it because it sells and their making money off of it, don’t have to give developers the world just because doing seniors housing

-          find it incredibly disingenuous that we have to have all this development just to get seniors housing

-          sewer system, couldn’t begin to address in one hour -- involved for at least 10 years and far, far more to it than meets the eye, many things related to it but just to say coliform counts in ditches and therefore we hook up to Nanaimo is a complete insult to those of us who have spent a great deal of time on this issue

-          chaired committee in ’90s to look for ways to address this and I got lambasted by a number of people that were so pro in hooking up to Nanaimo it went no where

-          did teach me far more complex issue, analyze problem first -- you don’t just take counts in ditches

-          there are places with sewers that have coliform counts in ditches

-          sewers do not necessarily correct problem and encouraged Council to look for options in a kind, passionate, knowledgeable, and considerate way as cost for sewer system is going to be phenomenal and people just can not afford it 

 

Mr. Roycroft asked for a second time if there were any individuals from the gallery wishing to speak for a second time, or first time.  Hearing none, Mr. Roycroft invited individuals for a third time to come forward if they had any more comments or submissions regarding the proposed Bylaw. 

 

Mr. Ian Savage, 7428 Chataway Place

-          Council insists that all options are going to be explored (sewer) but all of you have in mind to hook up to Nanaimo.  Sewer cost study paid for by tax dollars based on hooking up to Nanaimo, sewer phasing maps show hooking up to Nanaimo, grant application is based on hooking up to Nanaimo -- newspaper mayor was quoted then corrected after that to hooking up to Nanaimo, if you feel that is the option fair enough, but just say it … not good to pretend -- comes down to credibility

-          Council indicating that not involved in creating OCP well that is just beyond belief, my imagination is not big enough to consider that possibility

-          Council hand picked OCP committee while Mayor and another councillor sat on the committee

-          when asked in January it was noted that both Council and the OCP Steering Committee okayed the 730 figure for the foothills, that obviously is being involved

-          sold OCP plan a number of times at open houses where bent on promoting it rather than listening -- mayor’s website promotes

-          been absolutely savaged for daring to stand up and challenge you and especially what I hear behind my back and now we find out that councillors have been phoning residents promoting the OCP one on one – again speaks to credibility

-          don’t pretend that you haven’t had any input

-          Costin hall capacity fire regulations – gentleman who has always rented the hall says its 175, deputy administrator said 175 then went up to 250 after being in touch with the fire commissioners office and now latest is 500+ apparently, again, comes down to credibility – if Lantzville owns hall then have regulations set in place

 

Mr. Roycroft interjected and requested that Mr. Savage limit his comments to the Bylaw itself.

 

Mr. Savage continued …

-          people did not get to enjoy the Sept. 14 meeting or speak to it because of the fact that it was so overcrowded so I believe I am speaking to it

-          now in this new OCP, any kind of school can go in most residential areas of Lantzville

-          OCP consultant stated this was done specifically for Aspengrove school, why is this school receiving special treatment, or are you sincere when you are now saying that any school can go in any neighbourhood and I am a believer in fairness … and if your allowing any school in residential areas then nothing specified in OCP would restrict a dance school, Muslim school, or music school -- if states for one is that the new policy?

-          Seaview school and on one hand pining about declining enrollment, yet encouraging competitive school

-          septic fields and your complaints about them yet allow them at Aspengrove

-          no amendments for two years after adoption, again all speaks to credibility

-          now to move onto content of plan, addressed the down-zoning, would like to go through different areas that are being changed in this community plan

-          Foothills Comprehensive Development Plan Area allows 730 dwelling units, hasn’t even been negotiated seriously, so why appearing in the OCP.  Personally, feel far better negotiations could have been done,  nothing wrong with trying to gain parkland, that effort should be commended, but going from 108 lots at 19.765 acres up to 730 dwelling units with a min lot size of ¼ acre (smallest) huge giveaway and why on earth are not more serious negotiations being done so density can be created for same punch

-          why aren’t we ensuring that the land we may be getting as public park is not something that will give us another source of water rather than just accepting park land

-          Ware Road currently zoned for development when two times huge turnouts in opposition to it to force it to be defeated, and here we are a third time with an identical proposal in terms of its scope, yet being proposed yet again

-          aside from the Ware Road development a few other properties that go all the way to Peterson that are getting greatly increased density so that up to 22 condo can go onto 5 acres -- something else that is a great increase and no community input or support for that

-          residential zoning to me is the worst of all of it, taking huge swath of Lantzville and zoning it this new zone, called residential (pink) in this current border around this land it allows currently 1 acre and ½ acre minimum lot size, now increasing to 1/3 acre minimum on any development that is three or four lots or more subdivisions, the bigger parcels of land, and allowing 1/3 min lot size and with that scenario if give up 20% of land for parkland they can go to ¼ acre.  This pink zone is all of lower Lantzville except for higher density areas and farmland and a big piece of upper Lantzville as well, including Gee property -- how on earth is that going to keep Lantzville quiet, peaceful, green, rural feeling community, no reward for doing so

-          4.2.12 – District will support dedication to the crown of the beds of all creeks shown on map 10 where ever subdivision on those watercourses are proposed, so through subdivision the provincial government will gain jurisdiction of our creek beds

-          small items in the OCP that would bear more thought and more public input

-          need all this development for economic incentives, for sewer and water, (arguments for the plan), never understood the reason for the plan because never given it, no formal linking nor any logical explanation or any argument that rises to the point of being acceptable let alone a firm excellent argument, linking water and sewer to this OCP

-          the more development you can bring to Lantzville increases the possibility to spread out the capital costs of the sewer, hence people will be paying less, ultimately for sewer connection, than we would if we remain as we are, maybe these are reasons for overdevelopment but haven’t proved that, haven’t analyzed it

-          water same comments could apply -- haven’t seen coherent, cohesive, relationship explained … more secure water supply, haven’t seen the argument and it must be made 

-          everyone knows that sewer systems increase water consumption -- studies show that this is the case, people on sewers consume more than those on septic fields, simply studies have shown that

-          basically, just to reiterate once again that to me the collective knowledge of everyone is far greater than the knowledge of a few and none of us should be so arrogant that we think we have all the answers and from what I have heard I have heard people speak very knowledgably about where this community should go

-          a lot of residents have come from wrecked communities from these same promises of sewer, water and over development which results in people leaving those communities

-          all of us together, at least the majority should be on board which it isn’t --  this OCP is not what the majority of us want

-          no business passing -- no mandate to do so

 

Mrs. Maureen Roach, 6916 Harwood Drive

-          compelled to stand up and support the gentleman who spoke who said we need all types of housing in Lantzville

-          know many, many people who have been forced to leave Lantzville because simply not senior housing here for them and I think its too bad that this is happening and when Ian Savage gets up and says he has no indication that seniors housing is needed, he is quite wrong

-          I also feel that it is too bad that anybody should buy property here and then have it down-zoned I don’t think that is fair either

 

Mr. Rene Bertrand, 7425 Aulds Road

-          noticed after attending a number of meetings very apparent that community is very divided

-          tremendous amount of frustration and anger and its spilling out all over the place

-          sad to see in a small community like this

-          know the challenge you people have is a big one, would not want to be in your shoes, people can speak towards the process, you really try to do what you can do, you’re human beings as well and you can make mistakes, but because this community is really divided, would encourage you to put this to a referendum

-          need to ensure that you have the majority behind you -- put it to a referendum

 

Mr. Roycroft again invited any individuals to speak for a first, second or third time.  Hearing none, Mr. Roycroft invited individuals for a third and last time to come forward if they had any more comments or submissions regarding the proposed Bylaw. 

 

Hearing none, Mr. Roycroft turned the meeting over to Mayor Colin Haime, Chair. 

 

Mayor Haime, noting that there were no other persons wishing to speak declared the hearing closed at 8:53 p.m.  Mayor Haime continued by advising those individuals present that the Regular Meeting of Council would convene in approximately thirty minutes to allow Council the opportunity to review written submissions received during this public hearing as Council will be considering giving third reading and final adoption to the “District of Lantzville Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 50, 2005”.

 

Certified Correct:

 

 

                                                                       

Director of Corporate Administration

 

Confirmed this 11th day of October, 2005.

 

 

                                                                       

Mayor

 



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